Greatest Pop Artists of all time...

[Raja, The Great]

http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers

Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

[JohnB]

<snipped>

Ye Gods! Another list!!!!!

[DGDevin]

Post by JohnB
<snipped>
Ye Gods! Another list!!!!!

Since Rajafanboi doesn't understand the music, he chooses to talk about
people talking about the music.

[Bed Warmer]

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:56:06 -0800, "DGDevin"

Post by DGDevin

Post by JohnB
<snipped>
Ye Gods! Another list!!!!!

Since Rajafanboi doesn't understand the music, he chooses to talk about
people talking about the music.

Pity the fools. How much have YOU discussed music in here lately?

Bedwarmer
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

[Bed Warmer]

Well?

Bedwarmer

Post by Bed Warmer
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:56:06 -0800, "DGDevin"

Post by DGDevin

Post by JohnB
<snipped>
Ye Gods! Another list!!!!!

Since Rajafanboi doesn't understand the music, he chooses to talk about
people talking about the music.

Pity the fools. How much have YOU discussed music in here lately?
Bedwarmer
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

[DGDevin]

Well?

What?

I discuss music on a regular basis in several newsgroups, but I don't know
which group you're reading (of the five that Rajafanboi has cross-posted his
childish trolling to) so apparently I don't read that group.

In any event, one need not be a noted musicologist with ten books to his
name to regard "Raja's" efforts as ridiculous. He suffers from massive (and
often laughable) ignorance, he refuses to listen to people who know more
about the subject than he does (which is pretty much everyone), he treats
music as if it's a sport league where quality can be determined by stats (as
if there are winners and losers in art), he borrows opinions and supporting
information without credit, he insists on stuffing music into meaningless
pigeonholes and arranging it into pointless lists often using arbitrary
criteria, he mostly refuses to admit when he's been wrong about something no
matter how ironclad the proof to the contrary is, and much of what he posts
is dedicated to defending and/or promoting his fave bands (which I'm sure I
don't need to name)--thus "fanboi".

True, he does post about music, so if that's all it takes, okay, enjoy his
raving. There are a lot of people our there who know way more about music
than I do, and I enjoy reading their posts. "Raja" is another matter, his
posts are unsubstantiated and sometimes hysterical opinion, it's like
listening to some pre-teen girl ferociously defending Justin Bieber while
the older kids laugh. If the near-universal contempt in which "Raja" is
held bothers you for some reason, well, that would appear to be your
problem, not the world's.

[Raja, The Great]

Post by DGDevin

Well?

What?
I discuss music on a regular basis in several newsgroups, but I don't know
which group you're reading (of the five that Rajafanboi has cross-posted his
childish trolling to) so apparently I don't read that group.
In any event, one need not be a noted musicologist with ten books to his
name to regard "Raja's" efforts as ridiculous.  He suffers from massive (and
often laughable) ignorance, he refuses to listen to people who know more
about the subject than he does (which is pretty much everyone), he treats
music as if it's a sport league where quality can be determined by stats (as
if there are winners and losers in art), he borrows opinions and supporting
information without credit, he insists on stuffing music into meaningless
pigeonholes and arranging it into pointless lists often using arbitrary
criteria, he mostly refuses to admit when he's been wrong about something no
matter how ironclad the proof to the contrary is, and much of what he posts
is dedicated to defending and/or promoting his fave bands (which I'm sure I
don't need to name)--thus "fanboi".
True, he does post about music, so if that's all it takes, okay, enjoy his
raving.  There are a lot of people our there who know way more about music
than I do, and I enjoy reading their posts.  "Raja" is another matter, his
posts are unsubstantiated and sometimes hysterical opinion, it's like
listening to some pre-teen girl ferociously defending Justin Bieber while
the older kids laugh.  If the near-universal contempt in which "Raja" is
held bothers you for some reason, well, that would appear to be your
problem, not the world's.

Just say you hate me, because I dont think much of The Ooo

[DGDevin]

Post by Raja, The Great
Just say you hate me, because I dont think much of The Ooo

Nobody hates you, don't be so desperately theatrical. Your opinion on The
Who is of no more value than your opinion on medieval Scandinavian
poetry--since you know virtually nothing about either subject why would
anyone care about your childish bleating? No adult with Led Zep posters on
his living room wall should be surprised nobody takes him seriously. Why
don't you try to at least appear to be a grownup, get yourself a date or
two. Who knows, if you get lucky and get laid maybe you'll stop acting like
an oversized teenager whose whole life is spent worshipping rock stars and
tennis players. Jeez, man up already, "Raja"--don’t you *ever* want to get
married?

[Raja, The Great]

Post by Raja, The Great
Just say you hate me, because I dont think much of The Ooo

Nobody hates you, don't be so desperately theatrical.  Your opinion on The
Who is of no more value than your opinion on medieval Scandinavian
poetry--since you know virtually nothing about either subject why would
anyone care about your childish bleating?  

The Who have about 20 good songs. Led Zeppelin/Beatles/Rolling Stones
have about 50 good ones. Led Zeppelin amazingly made only about 80
original songs but they were incredibly consistent and hardly made any
bad songs. Pink Floyd and Yes might have around 30 good ones... but
their count is less because they made several 10-25 minute songs
during their peak.

Lets face it, the only good songs can be in found in Meaty Beaty Big
and Bouncy and Whos Next. The rest are rather forgettable. The Who
have been fooling the world for too long that they are anywhere in the
league of the pop giants like Beatles and Stones and prog rock giants
like Led Zeppellin/Yes/Pink Floyd. Let the world believe that The Who
matter as much as well, but in my book they are strictly second tier
and rate with the likes of Moody Blues/Deep Purple/Black Sabbath/Roxy
Music etc.

If The Who did not ever make Whos Next, I would consider them a
greatest hits band like Aerosmith/Eagles/Van Halen/Police etc. At
least they released one bona fide masterpiece in the form of Whos
Next. So they deserve some credit.

No adult with Led Zep posters on
his living room wall should be surprised nobody takes him seriously.  Why
don't you try to at least appear to be a grownup, get yourself a date or
two.  Who knows, if you get lucky and get laid maybe you'll stop acting like
an oversized teenager whose whole life is spent worshipping rock stars and
tennis players.  Jeez, man up already, "Raja"--don’t you *ever* want to get
married?

[Bed Warmer]

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:33:04 -0800, "DGDevin"

Post by DGDevin

Post by Raja, The Great
Just say you hate me, because I dont think much of The Ooo

Nobody hates you, don't be so desperately theatrical. Your opinion on The
Who is of no more value than your opinion on medieval Scandinavian
poetry--since you know virtually nothing about either subject why would
anyone care about your childish bleating? No adult with Led Zep posters on
his living room wall should be surprised nobody takes him seriously. Why
don't you try to at least appear to be a grownup, get yourself a date or
two. Who knows, if you get lucky and get laid maybe you'll stop acting like
an oversized teenager whose whole life is spent worshipping rock stars and
tennis players. Jeez, man up already, "Raja"--don’t you *ever* want to get
married?

You take the time to respond when you're specifically addressed and
even when you're not. The next time you see Raja doing something you
don't like it, try your 'skip' button or whatever and move onto
something else you like better.

Bedwarmer

[Bed Warmer]

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 20:24:21 -0800, "DGDevin"

Post by DGDevin

Well?

What?
I discuss music on a regular basis in several newsgroups, but I don't know
which group you're reading (of the five that Rajafanboi has cross-posted his
childish trolling to) so apparently I don't read that group.

*nods* 'Nuff said.

Post by DGDevin
In any event, one need not be a noted musicologist with ten books to his
name to regard "Raja's" efforts as ridiculous. He suffers from massive (and
often laughable) ignorance, he refuses to listen to people who know more
about the subject than he does (which is pretty much everyone),

If you're looking for professional discourse I'd suggest local college
social groups or the classifieds but maybe not the personals.

For the rest of us who can't sight read or aren't up on the latest
subsubsubsubgenre, we'd just kinda like to discuss what we do or don't
like.

Post by DGDevin
he treats
music as if it's a sport league where quality can be determined by stats (as
if there are winners and losers in art),

There are. Surely it can be universally agreed that Abbey Road is a
far finer album the Mamas and Papas Greatest Hits. Certainly a work
that sells ten million copies has an artistic advantage over one which
sold only a million copies of itself.

Post by DGDevin
he borrows opinions and supporting
information without credit, he insists on stuffing music into meaningless
pigeonholes and arranging it into pointless lists often using arbitrary
criteria, he mostly refuses to admit when he's been wrong about something no
matter how ironclad the proof to the contrary is, and much of what he posts
is dedicated to defending and/or promoting his fave bands (which I'm sure I
don't need to name)--thus "fanboi".

Yeah. Annoying as hell at times it is too. People who are stupid or
ignorant or in some other way different from oneself shouldn't be
allowed to speak.

Stupid people talk all the time. Witness the popularity of COPS and
it's Satanic offspring in the "reality TV" stream of "entertainment".
From Judge Judy to a whole network called TRU tv, it's a litany of the
bewilderment and frustration felt by the rest of us whenever Stupid
People are allowed to express an opinion or well, do anything on their
own. Stupid People are why we have factories.

Post by DGDevin
True, he does post about music, so if that's all it takes, okay, enjoy his
raving.

Well, that's not ALL it takes.

Post by DGDevin
There are a lot of people our there who know way more about music
than I do, and I enjoy reading their posts. "Raja" is another matter, his
posts are unsubstantiated and sometimes hysterical opinion, it's like
listening to some pre-teen girl ferociously defending Justin Bieber while
the older kids laugh. If the near-universal contempt in which "Raja" is
held bothers you for some reason, well, that would appear to be your
problem, not the world's.

Umkay. Still no discussion about music?

Bedwarmer

[DGDevin]

"Raja, The Great" wrote in message news:98d3d689-47b1-4d94-b96e-***@u25g2000pra.googlegroups.com...



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6161691.stm

Condoms 'too big' for Indian men
By Damian Grammaticus
BBC News, Delhi

A survey of more than 1,000 men in India has concluded that condoms made
according to international sizes are too large for a majority of Indian men.

The study found that more than half of the men measured had penises that
were shorter than international standards for condoms.

It has led to a call for condoms of mixed sizes to be made more widely
available in India.

The two-year study was carried out by the Indian Council of Medical
Research.
Over 1,200 volunteers from the length and breadth of the country had their
penises measured precisely, down to the last millimetre.

The scientists even checked their sample was representative of India as a
whole in terms of class, religion and urban and rural dwellers.

The conclusion of all this scientific endeavour is that about 60% of Indian
men have penises which are between three and five centimetres shorter than
international standards used in condom manufacture.

Doctor Chander Puri, a specialist in reproductive health at the Indian
Council of Medical Research, told the BBC there was an obvious need in India
for custom-made condoms, as most of those currently on sale are too large.

The issue is serious because about one in every five times a condom is used
in India it either falls off or tears, an extremely high failure rate.

And the country already has the highest number of HIV infections of any
nation.

'Not a problem'

Mr Puri said that since Indians would be embarrassed about going to a
chemist to ask for smaller condoms there should be vending machines
dispensing different sizes all around the country.

"Smaller condoms are on sale in India. But there is a lack of awareness that
different sizes are available. There is anxiety talking about the issue. And
normally one feels shy to go to a chemist's shop and ask for a smaller size
condom."

But Indian men need not be concerned about measuring up internationally
according to Sunil Mehra, the former editor of the Indian version of the
men's magazine Maxim.

"It's not size, it's what you do with it that matters," he said.

"From our population, the evidence is Indians are doing pretty well.

"With apologies to the poet Alexander Pope, you could say, for inches and
centimetres, let fools contend."

[Ray]

Post by DGDevin
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6161691.stm
Condoms 'too big' for Indian men
By Damian Grammaticus
BBC News, Delhi
A survey of more than 1,000 men in India has concluded that condoms made
according to international sizes are too large for a majority of Indian men.
The study found that more than half of the men measured had penises that
were shorter than international standards for condoms.
It has led to a call for condoms of mixed sizes to be made more widely
available in India.
The two-year study was carried out by the Indian Council of Medical
Research.
Over 1,200 volunteers from the length and breadth of the country had their
penises measured precisely, down to the last millimetre.
The scientists even checked their sample was representative of India as a
whole in terms of class, religion and urban and rural dwellers.
The conclusion of all this scientific endeavour is that about 60% of Indian
men have penises which are between three and five centimetres shorter than
international standards used in condom manufacture.
Doctor Chander Puri, a specialist in reproductive health at the Indian
Council of Medical Research, told the BBC there was an obvious need in India
for custom-made condoms, as most of those currently on sale are too large.
The issue is serious because about one in every five times a condom is used
in India it either falls off or tears, an extremely high failure rate.
And the country already has the highest number of HIV infections of any
nation.
'Not a problem'
Mr Puri said that since Indians would be embarrassed about going to a
chemist to ask for smaller condoms there should be vending machines
dispensing different sizes all around the country.
"Smaller condoms are on sale in India. But there is a lack of awareness that
different sizes are available. There is anxiety talking about the issue. And
normally one feels shy to go to a chemist's shop and ask for a smaller size
condom."
But Indian men need not be concerned about measuring up internationally
according to Sunil Mehra, the former editor of the Indian version of the
men's magazine Maxim.
"It's not size, it's what you do with it that matters," he said.
"From our population, the evidence is Indians are doing pretty well.
"With apologies to the poet Alexander Pope, you could say, for inches and
centimetres, let fools contend."

Now that's funny!

I haven't been to news.announce.newgroups for years. I would hate to
think someone has already claimed
alt.dickless.fanbois.raja.suck.suck.suck.

[Bed Warmer]

Post by Ray

Post by DGDevin
"With apologies to the poet Alexander Pope, you could say, for inches and
centimetres, let fools contend."

Now that's funny!

Once again the witless retire to a convenient newsgroup to complain
about the people who've come here to discuss music.

If you don't care for his subject matter, writing style or taste,
start some musical discussion of your own or try another group. Maybe
alt.boring.dickhead.no-life.whingers. . .

Bedwarmer
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

[RichL]

Post by Bed Warmer

Post by Ray

Post by DGDevin
"With apologies to the poet Alexander Pope, you could say, for inches and
centimetres, let fools contend."

Now that's funny!

Once again the witless retire to a convenient newsgroup to complain
about the people who've come here to discuss music.
If you don't care for his subject matter, writing style or taste,
start some musical discussion of your own or try another group. Maybe
alt.boring.dickhead.no-life.whingers. . .

It never ceases to amaze me how some posters (even those who use real
newsreaders) fail to recognize that certain threads are crossposted to
numerous groups.

Where's "here"?

[Bed Warmer]

Post by RichL

Post by Bed Warmer

Post by Ray

Post by DGDevin
"With apologies to the poet Alexander Pope, you could say, for inches and
centimetres, let fools contend."

Now that's funny!

Once again the witless retire to a convenient newsgroup to complain
about the people who've come here to discuss music.
If you don't care for his subject matter, writing style or taste,
start some musical discussion of your own or try another group. Maybe
alt.boring.dickhead.no-life.whingers. . .

It never ceases to amaze me how some posters (even those who use real
newsreaders) fail to recognize that certain threads are crossposted to
numerous groups.
Where's "here"?

Exactly. Instead of politile asking us to keep alt.whatever out of
the discussion, they snarl something nasty and if they mean it, cut
their home group out of the followups.

There is a good reason for this. If they advertise their home group
it's likely to get nuked and spammed to death.

So we put up with catty comments and flame wars all to no purpose.

Bedwarmer

[Scott F.]

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
[snipped]
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

That's a nice enough list. If they did the survey again in a year, I
bet it would be different. We'll wait and see.

[TheWalrusWasDanny]

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles

Well yes.

Post by Raja, The Great
2. Elvis Presley

I suppose so.

Post by Raja, The Great
3. Elton John

Dunno..he was OK early on.

Post by Raja, The Great
4. Madonna

Madge? Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
5. Frank Sinatra

They like him in NYC..best not say anyhthing negative!!

Post by Raja, The Great
6. Barbra Streisand

Bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
7. The Rolling Stones

Yes I'd put them in there.

Post by Raja, The Great
8. Michael Jackson

Sigh, I suppose so, never rated him personally.

Post by Raja, The Great
9. Stevie Wonder

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
10. Mariah Carey

Nah...I'd like to have full sexual intercourse with her though, if
somebody can sort that out for me please..

Post by Raja, The Great
11. Janet Jackson

What?

Post by Raja, The Great
12. Britney Spears

Nah...had to get rid of her in the end - too clingy.

Post by Raja, The Great
13. The Beach Boys

Yes I'd agree there.

Post by Raja, The Great
14. ABBA

Agreed.

Post by Raja, The Great
15. Bee Gees

I suppose so.

Post by Raja, The Great
16. Prince

Short arse, up his own arse..I don't think so..he called himself
Symbol for fuck's sake.

Post by Raja, The Great
17. Billy Joel

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
18. Bruce Springsteen

Maybe..not really "Pop" though IMO.

Post by Raja, The Great
19. Whitney Housto

Yes OK.

Post by Raja, The Great
20. Aretha Franklin

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
21. Rod Stewart

How RS became what he is I just don't know - it baffles me. I think
he's shite!!

Post by Raja, The Great
22. U2

I suppose so..went to see them in 1982 on the October Tour..they were
mediocre.

Post by Raja, The Great
23. Duran Duran

Bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z

Bollocks bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
26. Queen

Agreed,

Post by Raja, The Great
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles

Agree with both of these.

Post by Raja, The Great
29. Sly and the Family Stone

Bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
30. Fleetwood Mac

Yes.

Post by Raja, The Great
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters

Bollocks bollocks bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
34. Dusty Springfield

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
35. Simon and Garfunkel

Definately.

Post by Raja, The Great
36. Beyonce

Maybe.

Post by Raja, The Great
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow

Bollocks bollocks bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
40. Everly Brothers

Definately.

Danny

[Raja, The Great]

Post by TheWalrusWasDanny

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles

Well yes.

Post by Raja, The Great
2. Elvis Presley

I suppose so.

Post by Raja, The Great
3. Elton John

Dunno..he was OK early on.

Post by Raja, The Great
4. Madonna

Madge? Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
5. Frank Sinatra

They like him in NYC..best not say anyhthing negative!!

Post by Raja, The Great
6. Barbra Streisand

Bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
7. The Rolling Stones

Yes I'd put them in there.

Post by Raja, The Great
8. Michael Jackson

Sigh, I suppose so, never rated him personally.

Post by Raja, The Great
9. Stevie Wonder

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
10. Mariah Carey

Nah...I'd like to have full sexual intercourse with her though, if
somebody can sort that out for me please..

Post by Raja, The Great
11. Janet Jackson

What?

Post by Raja, The Great
12. Britney Spears

Nah...had to get rid of her in the end - too clingy.

Post by Raja, The Great
13. The Beach Boys

Yes I'd agree there.

Post by Raja, The Great
14. ABBA

Agreed.

Post by Raja, The Great
15. Bee Gees

I suppose so.

Post by Raja, The Great
16. Prince

Short arse, up his own arse..I don't think so..he called himself
Symbol for fuck's sake.

Post by Raja, The Great
17. Billy Joel

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
18. Bruce Springsteen

Maybe..not really "Pop" though IMO.

Post by Raja, The Great
19. Whitney Housto

Yes OK.

Post by Raja, The Great
20. Aretha Franklin

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
21. Rod Stewart

How RS became what he is I just don't know - it baffles me. I think
he's shite!!

Post by Raja, The Great
22. U2

I suppose so..went to see them in 1982 on the October Tour..they were
mediocre.

Post by Raja, The Great
23. Duran Duran

Bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z

Bollocks bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
26. Queen

Agreed,

Post by Raja, The Great
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles

Agree with both of these.

Post by Raja, The Great
29. Sly and the Family Stone

Bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
30. Fleetwood Mac

Yes.

Post by Raja, The Great
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters

Bollocks bollocks bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
34. Dusty Springfield

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
35. Simon and Garfunkel

Definately.

Post by Raja, The Great
36. Beyonce

Maybe.

Post by Raja, The Great
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow

Bollocks bollocks bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
40. Everly Brothers

Definately.
Danny

You know what Danny, I agree with all your choices.

[Char1ie]

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:01:27 -0800 (PST), TheWalrusWasDanny

Post by TheWalrusWasDanny

Post by Raja, The Great
21. Rod Stewart

How RS became what he is I just don't know - it baffles me. I think
he's shite!!

Rod's main problem is that he lived too long. If he had died after
his forth album he would have been remembered as one of the greatest
singers of all time. If "Every Picture Tells a Story" were the only
album he ever made, he would have made is mark in musical history. As
it happens, most of that has been erased.

[JohnB]

Post by Char1ie
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:01:27 -0800 (PST), TheWalrusWasDanny

Post by TheWalrusWasDanny

Post by Raja, The Great
21. Rod Stewart

How RS became what he is I just don't know - it baffles me. I think
he's shite!!

Rod's main problem is that he lived too long.  If he had died after
his forth album he would have been remembered as one of the greatest
singers of all time.  If "Every Picture Tells a Story" were the only
album he ever made, he would have made is mark in musical history.  As
it happens, most of that has been erased.

Agreed. His first two *big hit* singles, i.e. Maggie May and You Wear
It Well, were classics. EPTAS and the Old Raincoat album were pretty
good (though wonderfully ragged) and, of course, what would the Faces
have been without Rod?

[mcnewsxp]

Post by Char1ie
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:01:27 -0800 (PST), TheWalrusWasDanny

Post by TheWalrusWasDanny

Post by Raja, The Great
21. Rod Stewart

How RS became what he is I just don't know - it baffles me. I think
he's shite!!

Rod's main problem is that he lived too long. If he had died after
his forth album he would have been remembered as one of the greatest
singers of all time. If "Every Picture Tells a Story" were the only
album he ever made, he would have made is mark in musical history. As
it happens, most of that has been erased.
Agreed. His first two *big hit* singles, i.e. Maggie May and You Wear
It Well, were classics. EPTAS and the Old Raincoat album were pretty
good (though wonderfully ragged) and, of course, what would the Faces
have been without Rod?

jeff beck got some good stuff out of him

[s***@comcast.net]

Post by JohnB

Post by Char1ie
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:01:27 -0800 (PST), TheWalrusWasDanny

Post by TheWalrusWasDanny

Post by Raja, The Great
21. Rod Stewart

How RS became what he is I just don't know - it baffles me. I think
he's shite!!

Rod's main problem is that he lived too long.  If he had died after
his forth album he would have been remembered as one of the greatest
singers of all time.  If "Every Picture Tells a Story" were the only
album he ever made, he would have made is mark in musical history.  As
it happens, most of that has been erased.

Agreed. His first two *big hit* singles, i.e. Maggie May and You Wear
It Well, were classics. EPTAS and the Old Raincoat album were pretty
good (though wonderfully ragged) and, of course, what would the Faces
have been without Rod?

Small.

[johnty]

Post by JohnB
what would the Faces
have been without Rod?

The Small Faces, who were excellent.

[billy]

Post by TheWalrusWasDanny

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles

Well yes.

Post by Raja, The Great
2. Elvis Presley

I suppose so.

Post by Raja, The Great
3. Elton John

Dunno..he was OK early on.

Post by Raja, The Great
4. Madonna

Madge? Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
5. Frank Sinatra

They like him in NYC..best not say anyhthing negative!!

Post by Raja, The Great
6. Barbra Streisand

Bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
7. The Rolling Stones

Yes I'd put them in there.

Post by Raja, The Great
8. Michael Jackson

Sigh, I suppose so, never rated him personally.

Post by Raja, The Great
9. Stevie Wonder

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
10. Mariah Carey

Nah...I'd like to have full sexual intercourse with her though, if
somebody can sort that out for me please..

Post by Raja, The Great
11. Janet Jackson

What?

Post by Raja, The Great
12. Britney Spears

Nah...had to get rid of her in the end - too clingy.

Post by Raja, The Great
13. The Beach Boys

Yes I'd agree there.

Post by Raja, The Great
14. ABBA

Agreed.

Post by Raja, The Great
15. Bee Gees

I suppose so.

Post by Raja, The Great
16. Prince

Short arse, up his own arse..I don't think so..he called himself
Symbol for fuck's sake.

Post by Raja, The Great
17. Billy Joel

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
18. Bruce Springsteen

Maybe..not really "Pop" though IMO.

Post by Raja, The Great
19. Whitney Housto

Yes OK.

Post by Raja, The Great
20. Aretha Franklin

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
21. Rod Stewart

How RS became what he is I just don't know - it baffles me. I think
he's shite!!

Post by Raja, The Great
22. U2

I suppose so..went to see them in 1982 on the October Tour..they were
mediocre.

Post by Raja, The Great
23. Duran Duran

Bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z

Bollocks bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
26. Queen

Agreed,

Post by Raja, The Great
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles

Agree with both of these.

Post by Raja, The Great
29. Sly and the Family Stone

Bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
30. Fleetwood Mac

Yes.

Post by Raja, The Great
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters

Bollocks bollocks bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
34. Dusty Springfield

Nah.

Post by Raja, The Great
35. Simon and Garfunkel

Definately.

Post by Raja, The Great
36. Beyonce

Maybe.

Post by Raja, The Great
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow

Bollocks bollocks bollocks.

Post by Raja, The Great
40. Everly Brothers

Definately.
Danny

Thank you for not feeding the douches.

[The Lone Star]

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?

Where are:

1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee

[Raja, The Great]

Post by The Lone Star

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee

Why do you ask me? Did I create that list?

[who?]

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by The Lone Star

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee

Why do you ask me? Did I create that list?

You printed that list. That's the problem.

[Bed Warmer]

Post by who?

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by The Lone Star
Why do you do this?

Why do you ask me? Did I create that list?

You printed that list. That's the problem.

How is it a problem? You guys snivel and whinge all the live long day
at Raja. Whilst I agree he can be a major prick from time to time and
has the musical analysis skills of a wombat combined with the musical
tastes of an unconscious crack ho, he remains the top poster of on
topic material in every newsgroup I've seen him post to.

If you don't want to discuss music, go to a non music group. But as
long as you're in a music group, flaming the only on topic poster in
the crowd is in exceedingly poor taste and assures the rest of us that
for good or ill, our lives are and will always be better than yours.

Bedwarmer
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

[RichL]

Post by Bed Warmer

Post by who?

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by The Lone Star
Why do you do this?

Why do you ask me? Did I create that list?

You printed that list. That's the problem.

How is it a problem? You guys snivel and whinge all the live long day
at Raja. Whilst I agree he can be a major prick from time to time and
has the musical analysis skills of a wombat combined with the musical
tastes of an unconscious crack ho, he remains the top poster of on
topic material in every newsgroup I've seen him post to.

Uhhhh, not in RMB. Not by a long shot. Notice this thread is posted to
several groups.

[Bed Warmer]

Post by RichL

Post by Bed Warmer

Post by who?

Post by Raja, The Great
Why do you ask me? Did I create that list?

You printed that list. That's the problem.

How is it a problem? You guys snivel and whinge all the live long day
at Raja. Whilst I agree he can be a major prick from time to time and
has the musical analysis skills of a wombat combined with the musical
tastes of an unconscious crack ho, he remains the top poster of on
topic material in every newsgroup I've seen him post to.

Uhhhh, not in RMB. Not by a long shot. Notice this thread is posted to
several groups.

And I'm supposed to know this how, exactly? Further, why should I
care which of the several groups Raja posts to that anybody is from if
they don't say so? If you don't like his posts, the best way to
never, ever see one again is to never, ever respond.

As for me, when he pops up with something interesting in my home
group, I respond and enjoy. Because most of these groups see a LOT
less traffic than they did some years ago, the crossposting is
actually welcome because it draws more people into the discussion.

Bedwarmer

[scouser]

Post by The Lone Star

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

[who?]

Post by scouser

Post by The Lone Star

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?

[Ray]

Post by scouser

Post by The Lone Star

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Little Wing
Manic Depression
All Along the Watchtower
If 6 was 9
Purple Haze
Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)

for starters

[RichL]

Post by Ray

Post by scouser

Post by The Lone Star

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Little Wing
Manic Depression
All Along the Watchtower
If 6 was 9
Purple Haze
Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
for starters

Red House
Angel
The Wind Cries Mary
Stone Free
Third Stone from the Sun
Castles Made of Sand
Bold as Love
1983 (A Merman I Should Turn to Be)
Freedom
Ezy Ryder
My Friend

(to keep it rolling...)

[Raja, The Great]

Post by RichL

Post by Ray

Post by scouser

Post by The Lone Star

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Little Wing
Manic Depression
All Along the Watchtower
If 6 was 9
Purple Haze
Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
for starters

Red House
Angel
The Wind Cries Mary
Stone Free
Third Stone from the Sun
Castles Made of Sand
Bold as Love
1983 (A Merman I Should Turn to Be)
Freedom
Ezy Ryder
My Friend
(to keep it rolling...)

JHE's best songs are mostly from Are You Experienced. I find their
second and third album overrated.

[Norm]

"Raja, The Great" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:18eb5035-8c9f-47e7-b5bc-

Post by RichL

Post by Ray

Post by scouser
or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Little Wing
Manic Depression
All Along the Watchtower
If 6 was 9
Purple Haze
Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
for starters

Red House
Angel
The Wind Cries Mary
Stone Free
Third Stone from the Sun
Castles Made of Sand
Bold as Love
1983 (A Merman I Should Turn to Be)
Freedom
Ezy Ryder
My Friend
(to keep it rolling...)

JHE's best songs are mostly from Are You Experienced. I find their
second and third album overrated.

===============

Some of the later stuff just became noise with Hendrix trying to prove he
could do things othe guitarists couldn't. Music suffers when you do that.
But - he had some moments of genius early on and when he was at his creative
best nobody could compare.

Do you guys not know how to snip?

[Raja, The Great]

Post by Norm
news:18eb5035-8c9f-47e7-b5bc-

Post by RichL

Post by Ray

Post by scouser
or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Little Wing
Manic Depression
All Along the Watchtower
If 6 was 9
Purple Haze
Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
for starters

Red House
Angel
The Wind Cries Mary
Stone Free
Third Stone from the Sun
Castles Made of Sand
Bold as Love
1983 (A Merman I Should Turn to Be)
Freedom
Ezy Ryder
My Friend
(to keep it rolling...)

JHE's best songs are mostly from Are You Experienced. I find their
second and third album overrated.
===============
Some of the later stuff just became noise with Hendrix trying to prove he
could do things othe guitarists couldn't. Music suffers when you do that.
But - he had some moments of genius early on and when he was at his creative
best nobody could compare.

You are right. JHE became more and more like ELP later on. In fact
Hendrix was going to join ELP to form HELP before he died. Too bad
that never happened.

[Bed Warmer]

Post by Norm

Post by Raja, The Great
JHE's best songs are mostly from Are You Experienced. I find their
second and third album overrated.

Some of the later stuff just became noise with Hendrix trying to prove he
could do things othe guitarists couldn't. Music suffers when you do that.
But - he had some moments of genius early on and when he was at his creative
best nobody could compare.

I'm not a Hendrix fan and probably wouldn't recognize 10% of his
catalog in three bars but he was a genius, without peer in his all too
brief time.

Post by Norm
Do you guys not know how to snip?

No they don't.

Bedwarmer
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

[Ray]

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by RichL

Post by Ray

Post by scouser

Post by The Lone Star

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Little Wing
Manic Depression
All Along the Watchtower
If 6 was 9
Purple Haze
Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
for starters

Red House
Angel
The Wind Cries Mary
Stone Free
Third Stone from the Sun
Castles Made of Sand
Bold as Love
1983 (A Merman I Should Turn to Be)
Freedom
Ezy Ryder
My Friend
(to keep it rolling...)

JHE's best songs are mostly from Are You Experienced. I find their
second and third album overrated.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

noboby cares what you think, Bob Dylan like "electric ladyland" just
fine for example. So do I.

see... an appeal to authority!! anyone can make a moronic argument,
just like you. You're not so special, just being stupid you know.

[Raja, The Great]

Post by Ray

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by RichL

Post by Ray

Post by scouser

Post by The Lone Star

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie
Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee- Hide quoted text -
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or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?- Hide quoted text -
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Little Wing
Manic Depression
All Along the Watchtower
If 6 was 9
Purple Haze
Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
for starters

Red House
Angel
The Wind Cries Mary
Stone Free
Third Stone from the Sun
Castles Made of Sand
Bold as Love
1983 (A Merman I Should Turn to Be)
Freedom
Ezy Ryder
My Friend
(to keep it rolling...)

JHE's best songs are mostly from Are You Experienced. I find their
second and third album overrated.- Hide quoted text -
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noboby cares what you think, Bob Dylan like "electric ladyland" just
fine for example. So do I.

Overrated does not equate to bad. I like all three JHE albums. I just
think Are You Experienced is much better.

[Ray]

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http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie
Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
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or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?- Hide quoted text -
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Little Wing
Manic Depression
All Along the Watchtower
If 6 was 9
Purple Haze
Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
for starters

Red House
Angel
The Wind Cries Mary
Stone Free
Third Stone from the Sun
Castles Made of Sand
Bold as Love
1983 (A Merman I Should Turn to Be)
Freedom
Ezy Ryder
My Friend
(to keep it rolling...)

JHE's best songs are mostly from Are You Experienced. I find their
second and third album overrated.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

noboby cares what you think, Bob Dylan like "electric ladyland" just
fine for example. So do I.

Overrated does not equate to bad. I like all three JHE albums. I just
think Are You Experienced is much better.- Hide quoted text -
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So why not just admit that you've never heard "Electric Ladyland" and
"Axis Bold as Love" all the way through?

[Raja, The Great]

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http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie
Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee- Hide quoted text -
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or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Little Wing
Manic Depression
All Along the Watchtower
If 6 was 9
Purple Haze
Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
for starters

Red House
Angel
The Wind Cries Mary
Stone Free
Third Stone from the Sun
Castles Made of Sand
Bold as Love
1983 (A Merman I Should Turn to Be)
Freedom
Ezy Ryder
My Friend
(to keep it rolling...)

JHE's best songs are mostly from Are You Experienced. I find their
second and third album overrated.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

noboby cares what you think, Bob Dylan like "electric ladyland" just
fine for example. So do I.

Overrated does not equate to bad. I like all three JHE albums. I just
think Are You Experienced is much better.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

So why not just admit that you've never heard "Electric Ladyland" and
"Axis Bold as Love" all the way through?- Hide quoted text -

Actually I heard them long back... I thought Eletric Ladyland was
overboard and sorta like Creams Wheels Of Fire/*insert any ELP album
here* in terms of the wankery. Axis Bold As Love didnt strike me as
particularly groundbreaking.

[poisoned rose]

Post by Raja, The Great
Actually I heard them long back...

On Raja's scale, this means "three or four years ago." ;)

[poisoned rose]

I dislike making lists based on genre -- especially a genre as fuzzily
defined as "pop" -- but I took a playful stab at concocting my own "pop"
top 40. :) Sort of an erratic compromise between personal favorites and
overall significance, and pretty much impossible to order in any firmly
resolved way.

1. The Beatles
2. The Beach Boys
3. David Bowie
4. Stevie Wonder
5. Elvis Costello
6. Paul McCartney
7. John Lennon
8. Joni Mitchell
9. Paul Simon
10. The Kinks
11. The Doors
12. R.E.M.
13. Prince
14. Randy Newman
15. Big Star
16. The Byrds
17. ABBA
18. The Lovin' Spoonful
19. The Monkees
20. Cat Stevens
21. Talking Heads
22. Simon & Garfunkel
23. XTC
24. Roy Orbison
25. Split Enz
26. Serge Gainsbourg
27. The Rascals
28. Squeeze
29. Beck
30. Peter Gabriel
31. The Raspberries
32. Roy Wood
33. The Zombies
34. Robyn Hitchcock
35. The Beau Brummels
36. Matthew Sweet
37. Belle and Sebastian
38. Elliott Smith
39. Rufus Wainwright
40. Badfinger

Apologies for leaning so much toward black and pre-'60s music.

[Raja, The Great]

Post by poisoned rose
I dislike making lists based on genre -- especially a genre as fuzzily
defined as "pop" -- but I took a playful stab at concocting my own "pop"
top 40. :)  Sort of an erratic compromise between personal favorites and
overall significance, and pretty much impossible to order in any firmly
resolved way.
1. The Beatles
2. The Beach Boys
3. David Bowie
4. Stevie Wonder
5. Elvis Costello
6. Paul McCartney
7. John Lennon
8. Joni Mitchell
9. Paul Simon
10.   The Kinks
11.   The Doors

What is so pop about the Doors? Care to explain?

Post by poisoned rose
12.   R.E.M.
13.   Prince
14.   Randy Newman
15.   Big Star
16.   The Byrds
17.   ABBA
18.   The Lovin' Spoonful
19.   The Monkees
20.   Cat Stevens
21.   Talking Heads
22.   Simon & Garfunkel
23.   XTC
24.   Roy Orbison
25.   Split Enz
26.   Serge Gainsbourg
27.   The Rascals
28.   Squeeze
29.   Beck
30.   Peter Gabriel
31.   The Raspberries
32.   Roy Wood
33.   The Zombies
34.   Robyn Hitchcock
35.   The Beau Brummels
36.   Matthew Sweet
37.   Belle and Sebastian
38.   Elliott Smith
39.   Rufus Wainwright
40.   Badfinger

No ABBA, Bee Gees, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Elton John... some of the
biggest and greatest names in pop. You are fucking kidding me, right.

Post by poisoned rose
Apologies for leaning so much toward black and pre-'60s music.

[Bed Warmer]

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by poisoned rose
I dislike making lists based on genre -- especially a genre as fuzzily
defined as "pop" -- but I took a playful stab at concocting my own "pop"
top 40. :)  Sort of an erratic compromise between personal favorites and
overall significance, and pretty much impossible to order in any firmly
resolved way.
1. The Beatles
2. The Beach Boys
3. David Bowie
4. Stevie Wonder
5. Elvis Costello
6. Paul McCartney
7. John Lennon
8. Joni Mitchell
9. Paul Simon
10.   The Kinks
11.   The Doors

What is so pop about the Doors? Care to explain?

What is so beatmusik about Joni Mitchell? "Pop" is short for
"popular" and means different things in different places. Led
Zeppelin was a pop band in the UK. Horrified American fans would
insist that LZ was "rock". Mama Cass was "pop".

Bedwarmer
NP: Jamiroquai - "Feels Just Like It Should"

[JohnB]

Post by poisoned rose
I dislike making lists based on genre -- especially a genre as fuzzily
defined as "pop" -- but I took a playful stab at concocting my own "pop"
top 40. :)  Sort of an erratic compromise between personal favorites and
overall significance, and pretty much impossible to order in any firmly
resolved way.
1. The Beatles
2. The Beach Boys
3. David Bowie
4. Stevie Wonder
5. Elvis Costello
6. Paul McCartney
7. John Lennon
8. Joni Mitchell
9. Paul Simon
10.   The Kinks
11.   The Doors
12.   R.E.M.
13.   Prince
14.   Randy Newman
15.   Big Star
16.   The Byrds
17.   ABBA
18.   The Lovin' Spoonful
19.   The Monkees
20.   Cat Stevens
21.   Talking Heads
22.   Simon & Garfunkel
23.   XTC
24.   Roy Orbison
25.   Split Enz
26.   Serge Gainsbourg
27.   The Rascals
28.   Squeeze
29.   Beck
30.   Peter Gabriel
31.   The Raspberries
32.   Roy Wood
33.   The Zombies
34.   Robyn Hitchcock
35.   The Beau Brummels
36.   Matthew Sweet
37.   Belle and Sebastian
38.   Elliott Smith
39.   Rufus Wainwright
40.   Badfinger
Apologies for leaning so much toward black and pre-'60s music.

I'm surprised to see Cat Stevens featuring so highly on your list.
I'll have to slightly revise what I thought your tastes were :-)
I also notice a few acts I don't know anything about - Big Star,
Matthew Sweet and Elliott Smith. That's not to say I've never heard
them, just that the names have never registered. There are also a few
I know very little of (Serge Gainsburg, The Beau Brummels, Belle And
Sebastian) - so some googling may be in order when I get time.
I note (as Raja does) no Bee Gees - is this because of their disco
years, their pre-disco years - or do neither appeal? I actually picked
up their last album (This Is Where I Came In) in a bargain bin and was
surprised how good it was.
You're right about the fuzziness of genre lists though. Your inclusion
of the Doors got the reaction I expected!

[billy]

Post by JohnB

Post by poisoned rose
I dislike making lists based on genre -- especially a genre as fuzzily
defined as "pop" -- but I took a playful stab at concocting my own "pop"
top 40. :)  Sort of an erratic compromise between personal favorites and
overall significance, and pretty much impossible to order in any firmly
resolved way.
1. The Beatles
2. The Beach Boys
3. David Bowie
4. Stevie Wonder
5. Elvis Costello
6. Paul McCartney
7. John Lennon
8. Joni Mitchell
9. Paul Simon
10.   The Kinks
11.   The Doors
12.   R.E.M.
13.   Prince
14.   Randy Newman
15.   Big Star
16.   The Byrds
17.   ABBA
18.   The Lovin' Spoonful
19.   The Monkees
20.   Cat Stevens
21.   Talking Heads
22.   Simon & Garfunkel
23.   XTC
24.   Roy Orbison
25.   Split Enz
26.   Serge Gainsbourg
27.   The Rascals
28.   Squeeze
29.   Beck
30.   Peter Gabriel
31.   The Raspberries
32.   Roy Wood
33.   The Zombies
34.   Robyn Hitchcock
35.   The Beau Brummels
36.   Matthew Sweet
37.   Belle and Sebastian
38.   Elliott Smith
39.   Rufus Wainwright
40.   Badfinger
Apologies for leaning so much toward black and pre-'60s music.

I'm surprised to see Cat Stevens featuring so highly on your list.
I'll have to slightly revise what I thought your tastes were :-)
I also notice a few acts I don't know anything about - Big Star,
Matthew Sweet and Elliott Smith. That's not to say I've never heard
them, just that the names have never registered. There are also a few
I know very little of (Serge Gainsburg, The Beau Brummels, Belle And
Sebastian) - so some googling may be in order when I get time.
I note (as Raja does) no Bee Gees - is this because of their disco
years, their pre-disco years - or do neither appeal? I actually picked
up their last album (This Is Where I Came In) in a bargain bin and was
surprised how good it was.
You're right about the fuzziness of genre lists though. Your inclusion
of the Doors got the reaction I expected!- Hide quoted text -
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"I am giving JohnB and PR a chance now to discuss music other than
rock..."

[Bed Warmer]

Post by JohnB
I'm surprised to see Cat Stevens featuring so highly on your list.
I'll have to slightly revise what I thought your tastes were :-)
I also notice a few acts I don't know anything about - Big Star,
Matthew Sweet and Elliott Smith. That's not to say I've never heard
them, just that the names have never registered. There are also a few
I know very little of (Serge Gainsburg, The Beau Brummels, Belle And
Sebastian) - so some googling may be in order when I get time.
I note (as Raja does) no Bee Gees - is this because of their disco
years, their pre-disco years - or do neither appeal? I actually picked
up their last album (This Is Where I Came In) in a bargain bin and was
surprised how good it was.
You're right about the fuzziness of genre lists though. Your inclusion
of the Doors got the reaction I expected!

My rule of thumb is that if I'm not familiar with an artist, they
don't belong on the list. True greats must be globally recognizable.

Bedwarmer
NP: Jamiroquai -- Seven Days in Sunny June

[DGDevin]

Post by Bed Warmer
My rule of thumb is that if I'm not familiar with an artist, they
don't belong on the list. True greats must be globally recognizable.

No offense, but that's faulty logic. The general public wouldn’t recognize
the names of some seriously great musicians who are widely respected by
other musicians and the more musically literate segment of the population,
e.g. James Burton or Duck Dunn and so on. But that they aren't
magazine-cover names doesn't diminish their standing.

It's unwise to assume that an artist you aren't familiar with shouldn't
belong on one of these pointless lists. If you aren't into reggae you might
barely know who Bob Marley is, or if you're not a jazz buff then you
wouldn't know who Herb Ellis is, and so on. These days popular music is so
deeply fragmented that it's easy to be unaware of the stars of some
particular genre, but they're still stars and often have been for decades.

And then there is Rajafanboi who thinks he can decide who is great by
awarding points by some arbitrary formula that in the end is designed to
prove that Led Zep, Floyd and Yes are the greatest musical forces in the
history of the human race. Now there is something universally agreed upon,
"Raja" is clueless. You are apparently content that he at least posts about
music, but his astonishing ignorance and pig-headed fanboihood for a handful
of bands has not endeared him to the rest of Usenet.

[Bed Warmer]

Post by Bed Warmer
My rule of thumb is that if I'm not familiar with an artist, they
don't belong on the list. True greats must be globally recognizable.

No offense, but that's faulty logic. The general public wouldn’t recognize
the names of some seriously great musicians who are widely respected by
other musicians and the more musically literate segment of the population,
e.g. James Burton or Duck Dunn and so on. But that they aren't
magazine-cover names doesn't diminish their standing.

It does in Pop. In fact, reconizability is the second best measure of
Pop stature, the first being copies and tickets sold, money earned,
releases um, released. Iow, SALES. Now *that* is the measure of pop.

It's unwise to assume that an artist you aren't familiar with shouldn't
belong on one of these pointless lists. If you aren't into reggae you might
barely know who Bob Marley is, or if you're not a jazz buff then you
wouldn't know who Herb Ellis is, and so on. These days popular music is so
deeply fragmented that it's easy to be unaware of the stars of some
particular genre, but they're still stars and often have been for decades.

The list and discussion aren't about Reggae or Jazz. They're about
POP which *may* include these and other musical forms as subgenres.
One can make extremely popular music in a Reggae or Jazz format or
Country or Rap or etc..

But Pop as a musical genre is a very different thing. Lady Gaga is
pure pop as were the Beach Boys, the Monkees and Elton John.

And then there is Rajafanboi who thinks he can decide who is great by
awarding points by some arbitrary formula that in the end is designed to
prove that Led Zep, Floyd and Yes are the greatest musical forces in the
history of the human race. Now there is something universally agreed upon,
"Raja" is clueless.

Spot on but that doesn't preclude weaving in a bit of musical
discussion until he reaches the point of excitedly forgetting his meds
which apparently aren't working in the first place.

You are apparently content that he at least posts about music,

Credit where it's due. These are music related groups and music
related groups that have enjoyed/suffered cross posting to this same
profile of usenet groups for the decade and a half I"ve been posting
here.

but his astonishing ignorance and pig-headed fanboihood for a handful
of bands has not endeared him to the rest of Usenet.

He does sometimes learn, or at least bedgrudingly allow, and his
passion for his magicalistic, musicologically supreme triumvirate is
really quite quaint and charming when you think about it.

Unless he's just an ignorant prick who has a productive thought from
time to time.

Bedwarmer
NP Jamiroquai: Corner of the Earth

[DGDevin]

Post by Bed Warmer

Post by DGDevin
No offense, but that's faulty logic. The general public wouldn’t recognize
the names of some seriously great musicians who are widely respected by
other musicians and the more musically literate segment of the population,
e.g. James Burton or Duck Dunn and so on. But that they aren't
magazine-cover names doesn't diminish their standing.

It does in Pop. In fact, reconizability is the second best measure of
Pop stature, the first being copies and tickets sold, money earned,
releases um, released. Iow, SALES. Now *that* is the measure of pop.

Sure, but that's an arbitrary distinction as "pop" is being applied in this
thread. I don't waste time wondering about which category a particular band
fits into, I don't stop liking them if I discover they're considered
alt.country rather than Roots-Americana, what would be the point? Music
magazine writers are desperate to fit performers into categories, I don't
see much use in doing so for the rest of us.

Post by Bed Warmer
The list and discussion aren't about Reggae or Jazz. They're about
POP which *may* include these and other musical forms as subgenres.
One can make extremely popular music in a Reggae or Jazz format or
Country or Rap or etc..

I think it was Duke Ellington who said there are only two kinds of music:
good music, and bad music. Works for me.

Post by Bed Warmer
But Pop as a musical genre is a very different thing. Lady Gaga is
pure pop as were the Beach Boys, the Monkees and Elton John.

One could easily argue that all three of the latter resisted being
considered "pop" performers for at least part of their careers. The Beach
Boys and The Monkees both knew that if they couldn't make the transition to
being considered rock bands they were doomed. And Elton John's first band
was called Bluesology, he even auditioned for King Crimson--of course like
Rod Stewart he eventually realized there were greener fields to be harvested
elsewhere, but early on his work would have been found in the rock section
at your local record store.

Post by Bed Warmer

Post by DGDevin
And then there is Rajafanboi who thinks he can decide who is great by
awarding points by some arbitrary formula that in the end is designed to
prove that Led Zep, Floyd and Yes are the greatest musical forces in the
history of the human race. Now there is something universally agreed upon,
"Raja" is clueless.

Spot on but that doesn't preclude weaving in a bit of musical
discussion until he reaches the point of excitedly forgetting his meds
which apparently aren't working in the first place.

Been there, tried that. Nothing works with him, for example he'd rather
chew off his own thumbs than admit that Led Zep kinda stole a bunch of
songs, it's a matter of religious faith to him. It gets stale rather
quickly.

Post by Bed Warmer
He does sometimes learn, or at least bedgrudingly allow,

Never seen it, although that doesn't mean it's never happened.

Post by Bed Warmer
and his
passion for his magicalistic, musicologically supreme triumvirate is
really quite quaint and charming when you think about it.

It's more childish than charming IMO, and it's typical of someone who came
late to the game and tries to make up for it by cheering loader than anyone
else. People who convert to a religion are usually the most zealous, and
"Raja's" passion for rock music seems to answer that description. It
wouldn't be so bad if he'd at least approach the subject as someone with a
lot to learn, but he presumes to lecture people who were there to hear it
when it was new and then gets cranky when they point out his often hilarious
blunders. Have you ever seen his website? It's like a collection of crayon
drawings in which a child tries to explain how airplanes fly, what makes
cars work, why the inside of a refrigerator is cold....

Some time back he predicted that his ability as a singer and keyboard player
would mean he'd soon be joining a pretty good rock band. Maybe William Hung
is looking for a keys player.

[Bed Warmer]

On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 16:34:09 -0800, poisoned rose

Post by poisoned rose
I dislike making lists based on genre -- especially a genre as fuzzily
defined as "pop" -- but I took a playful stab at concocting my own "pop"
top 40. :) Sort of an erratic compromise between personal favorites and
overall significance, and pretty much impossible to order in any firmly
resolved way.

You're going to get burned for putting the Monkees on that list but
their "Headquarters" is as important a musical snapshot of the sixties
as Pet Sounds or Sgt Pepper.

It was the only album on which they play all the instruments.
They got to pick the songs, arrangements and even write.

There's a Bewitched reference in the writing credits. How much more
sixties can you get than that?

Despite the presence of some excellent songs and performances, failed
to capitalize on the opportunity. Can you imagine the Monkees doing
"Zilch" live on the show in some silly scene?

A video for "Mr Webster"?

Bedwarmer
NP Jamiroquai - "Rock Dust Light Star"

"All the sinners are just Saints without sparks." -- Jay Kay
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

[Bed Warmer]

Post by Ray

Post by Raja, The Great
Overrated does not equate to bad. I like all three JHE albums. I just
think Are You Experienced is much better.- Hide quoted text -

So why not just admit that you've never heard "Electric Ladyland" and
"Axis Bold as Love" all the way through?

So, you are so certain he's wrong that the only possibly explanation
is that he's heard the ones you like less than the one he prefers?

Which of Deep Purple's many albums was the best of the lot?. Studio
only!

Bedwarmer
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

[Bed Warmer]

Post by Ray

Post by Raja, The Great
JHE's best songs are mostly from Are You Experienced. I find their
second and third album overrated.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

noboby cares what you think,

A characteristic you share with one of the few left on usenet who
actually post on topic.

Post by Ray
Bob Dylan like "electric ladyland" just
fine for example. So do I.

Um, what?

Post by Ray
see... an appeal to authority!! anyone can make a moronic argument,
just like you. You're not so special, just being stupid you know.

His argument wasn't moronic. And I'm not just saying that because I
agree with his opinion. He didn't say anything overly nasty there,
just pointed out that Hendrix's career went into a downward spiral
just as soon as the public "discovered" him. This has also true of
many other musical artists. Hank Williams comes to mind.

Swill
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

[RichL]

Post by Bed Warmer
His argument wasn't moronic. And I'm not just saying that because I
agree with his opinion. He didn't say anything overly nasty there,
just pointed out that Hendrix's career went into a downward spiral
just as soon as the public "discovered" him.

If that statement weren't patently false, you might have a point.

[Bed Warmer]

Post by RichL

Post by Bed Warmer
His argument wasn't moronic. And I'm not just saying that because I
agree with his opinion. He didn't say anything overly nasty there,
just pointed out that Hendrix's career went into a downward spiral
just as soon as the public "discovered" him.

If that statement weren't patently false, you might have a point.

From the release of "Are You Experienced?" until the day he breathed
his last was how long? And much of it a spiral of drug use and abuse.
12 May 1967 to 17 September 1970

Bedwarmer
NP Jamiroquai: Corner of the Earth

[RichL]

Post by Bed Warmer

Post by RichL

Post by Bed Warmer
His argument wasn't moronic. And I'm not just saying that because I
agree with his opinion. He didn't say anything overly nasty there,
just pointed out that Hendrix's career went into a downward spiral
just as soon as the public "discovered" him.

If that statement weren't patently false, you might have a point.

From the release of "Are You Experienced?" until the day he breathed
his last was how long? And much of it a spiral of drug use and abuse.
12 May 1967 to 17 September 1970

But you said his *career* went into a spiral. It didn't. "Axis: Bold as
Love", "Electric Ladyland", "Band of Gypsies", as well as an incredible
amount of material that was recorded between 1967 and 1970 and released
after his death.

I should go into such a career spiral!

Now you might say his *personal life* went into a spiral, but I think that's
a value judgment rather than factual. But it would be closer to the truth.

[DGDevin]

Post by RichL
Now you might say his *personal life* went into a spiral, but I think
that's a value judgment rather than factual. But it would be closer to
the truth.

His personal life didn’t go down the toilet just because of drugs (although
drugs weren't helping) but because he was surrounded by sycophants and
parasites, because he was being hounded due to signing the wrong contract
when he was starting out, because he didn't know who he could trust, because
he had no life outside making money for other people.... The drugs were
just the icing on a hellish cake.

[Bed Warmer]

On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 21:53:09 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great
JHE's best songs are mostly from Are You Experienced. I find their
second and third album overrated.

I suspect the drugs had eaten away his genius by the time he was dead.

Bedwarmer
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

[DGDevin]

Post by Bed Warmer
I suspect the drugs had eaten away his genius by the time he was dead.

That's a risky assumption, as plenty of great musicians were serious drug
users without losing their touch, e.g. John Coltrane. Drugs weren't
Hendrix' main problem, drugs were just a symptom.

[RichL]

Post by DGDevin

Post by Bed Warmer
I suspect the drugs had eaten away his genius by the time he was dead.

That's a risky assumption, as plenty of great musicians were serious drug
users without losing their touch, e.g. John Coltrane. Drugs weren't
Hendrix' main problem, drugs were just a symptom.

Not only that, but the idea that drugs somehow affected his ability to
produce great music is belied by the copious amount of material that was
released after his death.

[JJ (UK)]

Post by Ray
Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)

Thank you for calling it Chile not Child.

JJ (UK)

[scouser]

Post by scouser

Post by The Lone Star

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Don't be silly Jeff. i used to detest him because my husband used to
play him all the time and he didn't really appeal to me personally but
i think he definitely should be in that list! There are not people in
that list who are worthy of it more than him - but i am not saying who
etc as who needs to get into a fight?!

[Bed Warmer]

On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:22:24 -0800 (PST), "who?"

Post by who?
What songs did Hendrix do that were so great?

The Star Spangled Banner.

Bedwarmer
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
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[Bed Warmer]

On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:20:16 -0800 (PST), scouser

Post by scouser

Post by The Lone Star
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

or Jimi Hendrix or Dylan

With Madonna in #3 and TWO Jackson kids in the top ten, this doesn't
appear to be the sort of list compiling crowd that would appreciate
the creative genius of your choices.

Bedwarmer
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

[Vocalize]

In terms of what? Sales? Mass appeal? Or musical content, integrity, etc.,
blah, blah?

Any greatest list for pop that doesn't include XTC ain't no greatest list
IMHO.

[Bed Warmer]

Post by Vocalize
In terms of what? Sales? Mass appeal? Or musical content, integrity, etc.,
blah, blah?
Any greatest list for pop that doesn't include XTC ain't no greatest list
IMHO.

Any greatest pop list that includes XTC by definition isn't a greatest
list as I have no idea who XTC is. I assume it's a band given your
use of the reference.

Bedwarmer

[Kevan Smith]

Post by Bed Warmer
Any greatest pop list that includes XTC by definition isn't a greatest
list as I have no idea who XTC is.

Wow. They were a pretty big deal.

[Bed Warmer]

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:35:15 -0800 (PST), The Lone Star

Post by The Lone Star

Post by Raja, The Great
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Why do you do this?
1. Dion
2. Gene Pitney
3. Bobby Vee
4. Al Jolson
5. Gene Autry
6. The Platters
7. Bobby Rydell
8. Roy Orbison
9. Bing Crosby
10. Patti Page
11. Patsy Cline
12. Buddy Holly
13. Rudy Vallee

You've answered your own question.

Bedwarmer
--
"Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit.
Slow thinkers keep right." - Peter Principle
Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

[Howard Stark]

1) Raja and the Vag Lubers

[JohnB]

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

You can't really object to the inclusion of any of these as their pop
credentials are sound. That's not to say I enjoy the music of Britney,
Jay Z and others, but pop is pop because it is popular to the masses.
It is not really for deeper criticical analysis. In this case, the two
factors that matter are sales and durability. Most folk, if you
stopped them in the street at random, would recognise almost every
name on the list. The fact that some of us don't like some of them is
neither here nor there.

There are a number of artists listed who have had critical success
beyond pop, and - as always - there are a number of acts that some of
us will think should have been included above others. I'm surprised to
see no mention of T Rex and Madness, but maybe their success was too
local. Not my kind of music, but I'm surprised Eminem isn't mentioned.
Possibly the most alarming omission, though, is the Kinks.

[Raja, The Great]

Post by JohnB

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

You can't really object to the inclusion of any of these as their pop
credentials are sound. That's not to say I enjoy the music of Britney,
Jay Z and others, but pop is pop because it is popular to the masses.

You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

Post by JohnB
It is not really for deeper criticical analysis. In this case, the two
factors that matter are sales and durability. Most folk, if you
stopped them in the street at random, would recognise almost every
name on the list. The fact that some of us don't like some of them is
neither here nor there.
There are a number of artists listed who have had critical success
beyond pop, and - as always - there are a number of acts that some of
us will think should have been included above others. I'm surprised to
see no mention of T Rex and Madness, but maybe their success was too
local. Not my kind of music, but I'm surprised Eminem isn't mentioned.
Possibly the most alarming omission, though, is the Kinks.

[JohnB]

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by JohnB

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

You can't really object to the inclusion of any of these as their pop
credentials are sound. That's not to say I enjoy the music of Britney,
Jay Z and others, but pop is pop because it is popular to the masses.

You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

What on earth are you on about now? What am I supposed to be denying?
I don't have a comprehension issue when it comes to music. I do
sometimes have a comprehesion issue when it comes to your posts which
sometimes seem to come from a parallel universe.

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by JohnB
It is not really for deeper criticical analysis. In this case, the two
factors that matter are sales and durability. Most folk, if you
stopped them in the street at random, would recognise almost every
name on the list. The fact that some of us don't like some of them is
neither here nor there.
There are a number of artists listed who have had critical success
beyond pop, and - as always - there are a number of acts that some of
us will think should have been included above others. I'm surprised to
see no mention of T Rex and Madness, but maybe their success was too
local. Not my kind of music, but I'm surprised Eminem isn't mentioned.
Possibly the most alarming omission, though, is the Kinks.

[Raja, The Great]

Post by JohnB

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by JohnB

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

You can't really object to the inclusion of any of these as their pop
credentials are sound. That's not to say I enjoy the music of Britney,
Jay Z and others, but pop is pop because it is popular to the masses.

You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

What on earth are you on about now? What am I supposed to be denying?
I don't have a comprehension issue when it comes to music. I do
sometimes have a comprehesion issue when it comes to your posts which
sometimes seem to come from a parallel universe.

RMB is a special retardo geezer universe. No one in his right mind
would call bands like Led Zeppelin/Sabbath/Metallica/Yes/Pink Floyd/
Deep Purple as pop. Be prepared to be smacked in the face, if you
encounter Metallica fans and call them as pop fans.

[billy]

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by JohnB

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by JohnB

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

You can't really object to the inclusion of any of these as their pop
credentials are sound. That's not to say I enjoy the music of Britney,
Jay Z and others, but pop is pop because it is popular to the masses.

You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

What on earth are you on about now? What am I supposed to be denying?
I don't have a comprehension issue when it comes to music. I do
sometimes have a comprehesion issue when it comes to your posts which
sometimes seem to come from a parallel universe.

RMB is a special retardo geezer universe. No one in his right mind
would call bands like Led Zeppelin/Sabbath/Metallica/Yes/Pink Floyd/
Deep Purple as pop. Be prepared to be smacked in the face, if you
encounter Metallica fans and call them as pop fans.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Metalica fans are all pussies.

[JohnB]

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by JohnB

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by JohnB

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

You can't really object to the inclusion of any of these as their pop
credentials are sound. That's not to say I enjoy the music of Britney,
Jay Z and others, but pop is pop because it is popular to the masses.

You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

What on earth are you on about now? What am I supposed to be denying?
I don't have a comprehension issue when it comes to music. I do
sometimes have a comprehesion issue when it comes to your posts which
sometimes seem to come from a parallel universe.

RMB is a special retardo geezer universe. No one in his right mind
would call bands like Led Zeppelin/Sabbath/Metallica/Yes/Pink Floyd/
Deep Purple as pop. Be prepared to be smacked in the face, if you
encounter Metallica fans and call them as pop fans.

And who has called any of these bands 'pop'? Back when it first came
out, the Black Sabbath single 'Paranoid' was a pop single - because
people weren't so precious about labels back then. Yes had a 'pop'
single called 'Wonderous Stories'. Pink Floyd had a couple of 'pop'
singles called 'Arnold Layne' and 'See Emily Play'. Deep Purple had a
couple, was it 'Black Magic Woman'? Just because these bands had a pop
single or two doesn't mean that they are defined as pop bands. That
would be like saying Led Zepplin are a traditional folk band because
they recorded some acoustic numbers that were written by "Trad."

RMB does attract its share of oddbods and does seem to bring out the
worst in some poeple (but that's true, I'd guess, for most forums).
When you go off on one like this, you up the 'retardo' percentage
considerably. Oh, and are Metallica fans known for their violent
reactions?

[Raja, The Great]

Post by JohnB

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by JohnB

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by JohnB

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

You can't really object to the inclusion of any of these as their pop
credentials are sound. That's not to say I enjoy the music of Britney,
Jay Z and others, but pop is pop because it is popular to the masses.

You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

What on earth are you on about now? What am I supposed to be denying?
I don't have a comprehension issue when it comes to music. I do
sometimes have a comprehesion issue when it comes to your posts which
sometimes seem to come from a parallel universe.

RMB is a special retardo geezer universe. No one in his right mind
would call bands like Led Zeppelin/Sabbath/Metallica/Yes/Pink Floyd/
Deep Purple as pop. Be prepared to be smacked in the face, if you
encounter Metallica fans and call them as pop fans.

And who has called any of these bands 'pop'? Back when it first came
out, the Black Sabbath single 'Paranoid' was a pop single - because
people weren't so precious about labels back then. Yes had a 'pop'
single called 'Wonderous Stories'. Pink Floyd had a couple of 'pop'
singles called 'Arnold Layne' and 'See Emily Play'. Deep Purple had a
couple, was it 'Black Magic Woman'? Just because these bands had a pop
single or two doesn't mean that they are defined as pop bands. That
would be like saying Led Zepplin are a traditional folk band because
they recorded some acoustic numbers that were written by "Trad."
RMB does attract its share of oddbods and does seem to bring out the
worst in some poeple (but that's true, I'd guess, for most forums).
When you go off on one like this, you up the 'retardo' percentage
considerably. Oh, and are Metallica fans known for their violent
reactions?

No they are really nice mellow people. Please go to a Metallica
concert and yell Metallica are POP.

[Char1ie]

On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:29:02 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great
You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

The pop music charts are a measure of what is "popular". This means
it sells, is played on the radio, and people like it and want to hear
it. If Black Sabbath has a hit songs that sells and is heard on pop
music stations then they would be pop music. Pop music is nothing
more that music that is popular with the masses. I guess, using your
example, the only thing that keeps Sabbath from being considered pop
music is that they are not popular enough. Pop music is a measure of
the "most" popular.

[Raja, The Great]

Post by Char1ie
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:29:02 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great
You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

The pop music charts are a measure of what is "popular".  This means
it sells, is played on the radio, and people like it and want to hear
it.  If Black Sabbath has a hit songs that sells and is heard on pop
music stations then they would be pop music.  Pop music is nothing
more that music that is popular with the masses.  I guess, using your
example, the only thing that keeps Sabbath from being considered pop
music is that they are not popular enough.  Pop music is a measure of
the "most" popular.

Sorry, but you guys are completely wrong. Pop music is supposed to
have a poppy sound which is designed to attract audiences of all kind.
Zeppelin songs are played on radio all the time, they are still not
considered pop. The term pop might have been initially though as short
form of popular music but (from the 50s and on) that denotes
something difference.

According to wiki... (please do not resort to the lame trolling
attempt to disregard this)

"since the late 1950s, however, pop has had the special meaning of non-
classical mus[ic], usually in the form of songs, performed by such
artists as the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, ABBA, etc."

From about 1967 the term was increasingly "used in opposition to the
term rock music", a division that gave generic significance to both
terms. Whereas rock aspired to authenticity and an expansion of the
possibilities of popular music, pop was more commercial, ephemeral and
accessible.[1According to Simon Frith pop music is produced "as a
matter of enterprise not art", is "designed to appeal to everyone" and
"doesn't come from any particular place or mark off any particular
taste". It is "not driven by any significant ambition except profit
and commercial reward ... and, in musical terms, it is essentially
conservative". It is, "provided from on high (by record companies,
radio programmers and concert promoters) rather than being made from
below ... Pop is not a do-it-yourself music but is professionally
produced and packaged".

So pop is more commercial music. Black Sabbath/Led Zeppelin/Yes/Pink
Floyd/Velvet Underground etc were making artistically ambitious music
which more often than not was targeted to a particular segment of the
market... the segment which preferred aggressive/experimental/
intellectual music. The attitude was different. Many of these bands
hardly issued singles, did press interviews, appeared on TV shows. The
whole attitude was different. The fact that they STILL become
successful is MOOT. Everyone does want to be successful but that does
not mean everyone has the same attitude in making music.

The Beatles did do a fair bit of experimentation on albums like
Revolver/Sgt Pepper/White Album, but it was still POP for the most
part. Rolling Stones were the dirty side of rock n roll music. But
they were also a POP band... they were just not traditionally pop
sounding (at least not all the time). I think it is ridiculous to call
Led Zeppelin/Yes etc as a pop band (popular band makes sense) because
they were commercially successful. Their music was not pop sounding by
any means.

[Bed Warmer]

On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:21:58 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by Char1ie
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:29:02 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great
You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

The pop music charts are a measure of what is "popular".  This means
it sells, is played on the radio, and people like it and want to hear
it.  If Black Sabbath has a hit songs that sells and is heard on pop
music stations then they would be pop music.  Pop music is nothing
more that music that is popular with the masses.  I guess, using your
example, the only thing that keeps Sabbath from being considered pop
music is that they are not popular enough.  Pop music is a measure of
the "most" popular.

Sorry, but you guys are completely wrong.

All of you are correct. Words can mean more than one thing. Deep
Purple scored a hit single with "Hush". In Britain DP were pop. So
were the Beatles and pretty much everybody else who was selling
records with electric guitars and african inspired rhthyms. Pop does
mean popular but in the States, "Pop" as a musical genre means
different things in different places.

Post by Raja, The Great
Pop music is supposed to
have a poppy sound which is designed to attract audiences of all kind

Elton John is pop. So is Mariah Carey.

Post by Raja, The Great
Zeppelin songs are played on radio all the time, they are still not
considered pop. The term pop might have been initially though as short
form of popular music but (from the 50s and on) that denotes
something difference.

*solemnly* We must never forget that Whole Lotta Love had a pop
single edit . . .

Post by Raja, The Great
According to wiki... (please do not resort to the lame trolling
attempt to disregard this)
"since the late 1950s, however, pop has had the special meaning of non-
classical mus[ic], usually in the form of songs, performed by such
artists as the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, ABBA, etc."
From about 1967 the term was increasingly "used in opposition to the
term rock music", a division that gave generic significance to both
terms. Whereas rock aspired to authenticity and an expansion of the
possibilities of popular music, pop was more commercial, ephemeral and
accessible.[1According to Simon Frith pop music is produced "as a
matter of enterprise not art", is "designed to appeal to everyone" and
"doesn't come from any particular place or mark off any particular
taste". It is "not driven by any significant ambition except profit
and commercial reward ... and, in musical terms, it is essentially
conservative". It is, "provided from on high (by record companies,
radio programmers and concert promoters) rather than being made from
below ... Pop is not a do-it-yourself music but is professionally
produced and packaged".

I'd say largely yes.

Post by Raja, The Great
So pop is more commercial music. Black Sabbath/Led Zeppelin/Yes/Pink
Floyd/Velvet Underground etc were making artistically ambitious music
which more often than not was targeted to a particular segment of the
market... the segment which preferred aggressive/experimental/
intellectual music. The attitude was different. Many of these bands
hardly issued singles, did press interviews, appeared on TV shows. The
whole attitude was different. The fact that they STILL become
successful is MOOT. Everyone does want to be successful but that does
not mean everyone has the same attitude in making music.
The Beatles did do a fair bit of experimentation on albums like
Revolver/Sgt Pepper/White Album, but it was still POP for the most
part. Rolling Stones were the dirty side of rock n roll music. But
they were also a POP band... they were just not traditionally pop
sounding (at least not all the time). I think it is ridiculous to call
Led Zeppelin/Yes etc as a pop band (popular band makes sense) because
they were commercially successful. Their music was not pop sounding by
any means.

You're on target there.

Bedwarmer

[Raja, The Great]

Post by Bed Warmer
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:21:58 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by Char1ie
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:29:02 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great
You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

The pop music charts are a measure of what is "popular". This means
it sells, is played on the radio, and people like it and want to hear
it. If Black Sabbath has a hit songs that sells and is heard on pop
music stations then they would be pop music. Pop music is nothing
more that music that is popular with the masses. I guess, using your
example, the only thing that keeps Sabbath from being considered pop
music is that they are not popular enough. Pop music is a measure of
the "most" popular.

Sorry, but you guys are completely wrong.

All of you are correct.  Words can mean more than one thing.  Deep
Purple scored a hit single with "Hush".  In Britain DP were pop.  So
were the Beatles and pretty much everybody else who was selling
records with electric guitars and african inspired rhthyms.  Pop does
mean popular but in the States, "Pop" as a musical genre means
different things in different places.

Yes you are right. The word pop can mean many things, but the word
taken as a genre definition means a particular type of upbeat and most
often danceable music (with) mostly positive lyrics. Any one thinks
Pink Floyd/Led Zeppelin/Yes/Sabbath/Purple (Mark II) were making
danceable upbeat music like the Stones and Beatles early on when they
started is clearly RETARDED.
 

Post by Bed Warmer

Post by Raja, The Great
Pop music is supposed to
have a poppy sound which is designed to attract audiences of all kind

Elton John is pop.  So is Mariah Carey.

Post by Raja, The Great
Zeppelin songs are played on radio all the time, they are still not
considered pop. The term pop might have been initially though as short
form of popular music but  (from the 50s and on) that denotes
something difference.

*solemnly*  We must never forget that Whole Lotta Love had a pop
single edit . . .

Post by Raja, The Great
According to wiki... (please do not resort to the lame trolling
attempt to disregard this)
"since the late 1950s, however, pop has had the special meaning of non-
classical mus[ic], usually in the form of songs, performed by such
artists as the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, ABBA, etc."
From about 1967 the term was increasingly "used in opposition to the
term rock music", a division that gave generic significance to both
terms. Whereas rock aspired to authenticity and an expansion of the
possibilities of popular music, pop was more commercial, ephemeral and
accessible.[1According to Simon Frith pop music is produced "as a
matter of enterprise not art", is "designed to appeal to everyone" and
"doesn't come from any particular place or mark off any particular
taste". It is "not driven by any significant ambition except profit
and commercial reward ... and, in musical terms, it is essentially
conservative". It is, "provided from on high (by record companies,
radio programmers and concert promoters) rather than being made from
below ... Pop is not a do-it-yourself music but is professionally
produced and packaged".

I'd say largely yes.

Post by Raja, The Great
So pop is more commercial music. Black Sabbath/Led Zeppelin/Yes/Pink
Floyd/Velvet Underground etc were making artistically ambitious music
which more often than not was targeted to a particular segment of the
market... the segment which preferred aggressive/experimental/
intellectual music. The attitude was different. Many of these bands
hardly issued singles, did press interviews, appeared on TV shows. The
whole attitude was different. The fact that they STILL become
successful is MOOT. Everyone does want to be successful but that does
not mean everyone has the same attitude in making music.
The Beatles did do a fair bit of experimentation on albums like
Revolver/Sgt Pepper/White Album, but it was still POP for the most
part. Rolling Stones were the dirty side of rock n roll music. But
they were also a POP band... they were just not traditionally pop
sounding (at least not all the time). I think it is ridiculous to call
Led Zeppelin/Yes etc as a pop band (popular band makes sense) because
they were commercially successful. Their music was not pop sounding by
any means.

You're on target there.

Thanks for being the only other sensible poster over here.

[globular]

Post by Char1ie
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:29:02 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great
You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

The pop music charts are a measure of what is "popular". This means
it sells, is played on the radio, and people like it and want to hear
it. If Black Sabbath has a hit songs that sells and is heard on pop
music stations then they would be pop music. Pop music is nothing
more that music that is popular with the masses. I guess, using your
example, the only thing that keeps Sabbath from being considered pop
music is that they are not popular enough. Pop music is a measure of
the "most" popular.

I somewhat agree with you. To me almost everything is pop. The style
of recording artists that don't sell well are still related in some way
to what is popular. It seems artificial to me to separate a 'pop' genre
from 'alternative'. How Black Sabbath can't be pop I don't see. The
Sex Pistols were pop.

[Raja, The Great]

Post by Char1ie
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:29:02 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great
You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

The pop music charts are a measure of what is "popular".  This means
it sells, is played on the radio, and people like it and want to hear
it.  If Black Sabbath has a hit songs that sells and is heard on pop
music stations then they would be pop music.  Pop music is nothing
more that music that is popular with the masses.  I guess, using your
example, the only thing that keeps Sabbath from being considered pop
music is that they are not popular enough.  Pop music is a measure of
the "most" popular.

I somewhat agree with you.  To me almost everything is pop.  The style
of recording artists that don't sell well are still related in some way
to what is popular.  It seems artificial to me to separate a 'pop' genre
from 'alternative'.  How Black Sabbath can't be pop I don't see.  The
Sex Pistols were pop.

Wrong! Pop music and Rock Music are part of the Rock N Roll umbrella
genre. Some people call it Rock/Pop and consider Rock N Roll as the a
precursor to both. To my ears, pop music is poppy and has certain
melodic aspects not really found in rock music. That doesn't mean rock
music has no melody. It is just a different type of melody.

[Bed Warmer]

On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 15:12:26 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great

I somewhat agree with you.  To me almost everything is pop.  The style
of recording artists that don't sell well are still related in some way
to what is popular.  It seems artificial to me to separate a 'pop' genre
from 'alternative'.  How Black Sabbath can't be pop I don't see.  The
Sex Pistols were pop.

Wrong!

See, that's a very American view. In the UK it all seems to be 'pop'
whether it's electric guitars hammering amp stacks or nuns on banjos.

Post by Raja, The Great
Pop music and Rock Music are part of the Rock N Roll umbrella
genre. Some people call it Rock/Pop and consider Rock N Roll as the a
precursor to both.

Git away though young and ignorant pup! What did they call it in the
fifties? Forties? Thirties?

Post by Raja, The Great
To my ears, pop music is poppy and has certain
melodic aspects not really found in rock music. That doesn't mean rock
music has no melody. It is just a different type of melody.

"Pop" as you seem to be thinking tends to be simpler. Melody backed
with harmony with vocals (melody) universal and dominant. That's
pretty typically pop. Observe the rarity of instrumental tracks on
top forty charts.

Rock is based on rhythm overlaid by harmonies with vox (melody) still
universal but no longer dominant.

Bedwarmer
NP Jamiroquai: Traveling Without Moving

[Raja, The Great]

Post by Char1ie
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:29:02 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great
You have a major comprehension issue when it comes to music. You just
do not get it. Most of these bands on the list made pop oriented
songs. They are not on the list because they were popular. Black
Sabbath were popular too, but they were not pop. There is a
distinguishing factor between pop and rock. But you being in serious
state of denial, will never acknowledge that.

The pop music charts are a measure of what is "popular".  This means
it sells, is played on the radio, and people like it and want to hear
it.  If Black Sabbath has a hit songs that sells and is heard on pop
music stations then they would be pop music.  Pop music is nothing
more that music that is popular with the masses.  I guess, using your
example, the only thing that keeps Sabbath from being considered pop
music is that they are not popular enough.  Pop music is a measure of
the "most" popular.

I somewhat agree with you.  To me almost everything is pop.  The style
of recording artists that don't sell well are still related in some way
to what is popular.  It seems artificial to me to separate a 'pop' genre
from 'alternative'.  How Black Sabbath can't be pop I don't see.  The
Sex Pistols were pop.

Are Death metal bands pop too? They are very popular in Scandanavian
countries... Mozart was very popular... was he pop too? How about
Robert Johnson? Muddy Waters? Stop being retarded, guys. If all forms
of music is POP then why not just call it music.

[Char1ie]

On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 15:18:23 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Pop music is poppy

Brilliant!

Are Death metal bands pop too? They are very popular in Scandanavian
countries... Mozart was very popular... was he pop too? How about
Robert Johnson? Muddy Waters? Stop being retarded, guys. If all forms
of music is POP then why not just call it music.

If this is true then that would make Death metal Scandanavian pop
music, but I doubt that Death metal is the most popular music there.
Pop is whatever is most popular. Not all music is popular, that is
why not all music is pop music, since you asked. Pop music appeals
to a wide range of musical taste, that is why it is popular. Any
group can make pop music, if enough people like it.

[Raja, The Great]

Post by Char1ie
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 15:18:23 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Pop music is poppy

Brilliant!

Are Death metal bands pop too? They are very popular in Scandanavian
countries... Mozart was very popular... was he pop too? How about
Robert Johnson? Muddy Waters? Stop being retarded, guys. If all forms
of music is POP then why not just call it music.

If this is true then that would make Death metal Scandanavian pop
music, but I doubt that Death metal is the most popular music there.
Pop is whatever is most  popular.

Wrong. Metallica were very popular. They were never pop.

[mcnews]

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by Char1ie
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 15:18:23 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Pop music is poppy

Brilliant!

Are Death metal bands pop too? They are very popular in Scandanavian
countries... Mozart was very popular... was he pop too? How about
Robert Johnson? Muddy Waters? Stop being retarded, guys. If all forms
of music is POP then why not just call it music.

If this is true then that would make Death metal Scandanavian pop
music, but I doubt that Death metal is the most popular music there.
Pop is whatever is most  popular.

Wrong. Metallica were very popular. They were never pop.

turn the page

[Bed Warmer]

Post by Raja, The Great

Post by DGDevin
"Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great
Are Death metal bands pop too? They are very popular in Scandanavian
countries... Mozart was very popular... was he pop too? How about
Robert Johnson? Muddy Waters? Stop being retarded, guys. If all forms
of music is POP then why not just call it music.

If this is true then that would make Death metal Scandanavian pop
music, but I doubt that Death metal is the most popular music there.
Pop is whatever is most  popular.

Wrong. Metallica were very popular. They were never pop.

Wow, you really *are* young aren't you?

Bedwarmer
NP Jamiroquai: Canned Heat

[Bed Warmer]

On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 15:18:23 -0800 (PST), "Raja, The Great"

Post by Raja, The Great
Are Death metal bands pop too? They are very popular in Scandanavian
countries... Mozart was very popular... was he pop too? How about
Robert Johnson? Muddy Waters? Stop being retarded, guys. If all forms
of music is POP then why not just call it music.

Because different kinds of music is popular. Except classical. Not
popular except in Hollywood.

Bedwarmer
NP Jamiroquai: Virtual Insanity

[Bed Warmer]

On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 10:03:14 +1100, globular

Post by globular

Post by Char1ie
The pop music charts are a measure of what is "popular". This means
it sells, is played on the radio, and people like it and want to hear
it. If Black Sabbath has a hit songs that sells and is heard on pop
music stations then they would be pop music. Pop music is nothing
more that music that is popular with the masses. I guess, using your
example, the only thing that keeps Sabbath from being considered pop
music is that they are not popular enough. Pop music is a measure of
the "most" popular.

I somewhat agree with you. To me almost everything is pop. The style
of recording artists that don't sell well are still related in some way
to what is popular. It seems artificial to me to separate a 'pop' genre
from 'alternative'. How Black Sabbath can't be pop I don't see. The
Sex Pistols were pop.

That's a UK attitude toward the subject. Not that it's a bad thing.
The American tendency is to categorize everything. The pop artist's
struggle is to evade categorization altogether.

Bedwarmer
NP: Jamiroquai: Space Cowboy

[globular]

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

In calculus, as pop approaches a limit of infinity, music becomes
increasingly irrelevant until Madonna is called relevant, and Frank
Sinatra and Barbra Streisand are the same as everybody else.

[scouser]

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

No Bob Marley or Smokey Robinson either...

[Jim Beam]

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

No Bob Marley or Smokey Robinson either...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Or....
The Osmonds
The Jackson 5
David Cassidy
Leif Garret
The Archies
The Monkeys
Dean Martin
Tony Bennet
Nat King Cole
and so on and so on........................

[scouser]

Post by Jim Beam

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

No Bob Marley or Smokey Robinson either...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Or....
The Osmonds
The Jackson 5
David Cassidy
Leif Garret
The Archies
The Monkeys
Dean Martin
Tony Bennet
Nat King Cole
and so on and so on........................- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

So true - i thought of Nat King Cole and the Jackson Five too, i did
think of the Monkeys but discounted that thought - but why not.

[Alice Bowie]

Post by Raja, The Great
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top40popartistsalltime.03.htm
1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. Elton John
4. Madonna
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Barbra Streisand
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Michael Jackson
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Mariah Carey
11. Janet Jackson
12. Britney Spears
13. The Beach Boys
14. ABBA
15. Bee Gees
16. Prince
17. Billy Joel
18. Bruce Springsteen
19. Whitney Houston
20. Aretha Franklin
21. Rod Stewart
22. U2
23. Duran Duran
24. Marvin Gaye
25. Jay-Z
26. Queen
27. David Bowie
28. Eagles
29. Sly and the Family Stone
30. Fleetwood Mac
31. Robbie Williams
32. Donna Summer
33. The Carpenters
34. Dusty Springfield
35. Simon and Garfunkel
36. Beyonce
37. Pet Shop Boys
38. Sam Cooke
39. Barry Manilow
40. Everly Brothers
Nice list... I object to inclusion Of Britney Spears, Robbie Williams
and Jay Z

Celine Dion? Nana Mouskouri? Julio Eglesias? Backstreet Boys?

Another half-assed list.

[Jales]

It seems there's no agreement on what POP means..... Is it a generic
term which includes Jazz, Folk, Country, etc?
Is it one of the two main "types" of some kind of popular music which
excludes Jazz, Folk, Country, etc. genres, the other being Rock (a
kind of music some people call Rock And Roll, which is supposed to
have started with Rock Around The Clock by Bill Halley, and which
excluded artists like Sinatra, Pat Boone and the like)
If we take the Rock vs Pop main division, then all "subgenres" (e.g.
Funk, Soul, Blues, Tecno, Electronic, Progressive, Symphonic, etc,
etc, etc) should be either part of Rock or part of Pop.
There's no general consensus about these definitions, so nothing could
be constructed from that.
If Neil Diamond is inducted on the RNR Hall Of Fame, then his music is
certainly Rock And Roll music (otherwise it doesn't make sense)
Is Barbra Streisand a Pop artist?

[OK, he's free]

Greatest Pop Artists of all time...

I'll go with Roy Liechtenstein.